there must be a minimum of 2 windows on one side EXCLUDING the cab windows. So you are correct on that point.
Hi you're probably right. I meant that it was refused because it didn't look like a campervan in traffic. There was a link to some pictures on the first page but i couldn't see any pictures.
Hi Trucking,
. PhilI don't think it looks like a van. The rules are riduculous as we were told we could still use it as a campervan. I don't see what difference it makes what it looks like in traffic, we have a number plate that the police can check and dedice if it's legal.Hi Trucking,
Yes it has now become very difficult to get it registered as a "Motor caravan". Your other half is correct that the passenger window does not count in the amount of windows required per side, it is two windows on one side and at least one window on the opposite side. Preferably caravan style windows in my opinion but this is not stipulated in their requirements. Though I can see that if they are not caravan style I.e. Seitz, then it is highly likely to make it a van with windows category. I think and this is my honest thought that you have to stand back and look at a van that has been self built or even professionally built and genuinely say to your self does this really look like a " Motor caravan" could it be mistaken for a commercial van with windows at a glance, is the internals unmistakably that of a caravan with everything expected in a caravan visibly present, if the answer to any of those points is "No" then expect a refusal from the DVLA.
I agree, in the past Millie Master and I have had words through emails with the head of DVLA when the rules were announced but not as yet put into practice, it seems as though it was left up to people who had no interest in camper vans or motorhomes to decide if it was going to be reclassified as a "Motor caravan" and it would also seem that if he or she had a bad day then it was refused regardless, this was all previously to the requirement change. I would hazard a guess that a lot of this new regulation was to stop this happening and make the decision more non bias ( I don't know this for sure) as refusals were being contested on a regular basis. You might have noticed that many of the professionals are now having their conversions classed as"Van with windows" as they nearly all have started building vans with smoked glass side windows and to keep costs down no roll out awnings or solar panels and so have fallen at the looks like hurdle, so we self builders not the only ones suffering with this change. I'm lucky I suppose as mine was built before the changes but does look like a motor caravan in anycase
We are looking into getting decals. So tinted windows are not accepted in the rear of a campervan? I managed to see the interior pictures from the links, it's a shame they don't have ones of the outside which are acceptable.
I didn't know that rear tinted windows were unacceptable! I thought they were only interested in the side windows and how many side windows? Phil
Our side windows are tinted as we are usually in hot countries on holiday.
Ha! see what you mean Dave. I'm talking about rear door windows. Missed the fact that Trucker was talking about rear side windows. PhilI think the tinted windows not accpetable thing is a "lost in translation" point within this thread (similar to the "he's right" and "she's right" about the number of windows)
